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Complementarity of 64-fold Sets as an Elusive Rosetta Stone?

Circumventing irresponsible authoritarian imposition of incoherent patterns of connectedness


Complementarity of 64-fold Sets as an Elusive Rosetta Stone?
1. Citizen Kane (1941)
2. The Godfather (1972)
3. Casablanca (1942)
4. Raging Bull (1980)
5. Singin' in the Rain (1952)
6. Gone with the Wind (1939)
7. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
8. Schindler's List (1993)
9. Vertigo (1958)
10. The Wizard of Oz (1939)
11. City Lights (1931)
12. The Searchers (1956)
13. Star Wars (1977)
14. Psycho (1960)
15. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
16. Sunset Boulevard (1950)
17. The Graduate (1967)
18. The General (1926)
19. On the Waterfront (1954)
20. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
21. Chinatown (1974)
22. Some Like It Hot (1959)
23. The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
24. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
25. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
Battleship Potemkin (1925) - Eisenstein
Andrei Rublev (1966) - Tarkovsky
Stalker (1979) - Tarkovsky
The Cranes Are Flying (1957) - Kalatozov
Come and See (1985) - Klimov
Burnt by the Sun (1994) - Mikhalkov
Leviathan (2014) - Zvyagintsev
Ivan's Childhood (1962) - Tarkovsky
Mirror (1975) - Tarkovsky
Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears (1980) - Menshov
The Return (2003) - Zvyagintsev
Solaris (1972) - Tarkovsky
Alexander Nevsky (1938) - Eisenstein
Ballad of a Soldier (1959) - Chukhrai
War and Peace (1966) - Bondarchuk
Bicycle Thieves (1948, Italy) - De Sica
The 400 Blows (1959, France) - Truffaut
Rules of the Game (1939, France) - Renoir
8½ (1963, Italy) - Fellini
Persona (1966, Sweden) - Bergman
L'Avventura (1960, Italy) - Antonioni
Breathless (1960, France) - Godard
The Seventh Seal (1957, Sweden) - Bergman
Contempt (1963, France) - Godard
The Spirit of the Beehive (1973, Spain) - Erice
Viridiana (1961, Spain) - Buñuel
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966, France) - Bresson
Amour (2012, Austria/France) - Haneke
The White Ribbon (2009, Austria/Germany) - Haneke
Cries and Whispers (1972, Sweden) - Bergman
References

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Introduction

Question to Claude-4.5: Previous exchanges have included reference to Georges Polti's Thirty-Six Dramatic Situations. The possibility was evoked of an AI review of 100 popular movies to detect how many of those situations were evident -- and how many were not. The possibility of doing so from Wikipedia profiles was recognized. Having just completed a 64-fold mapping exercise, the obvious question is why 36 and not 64, and what might a 20-fold collapsed cluster of such situations look like.

 
Claude-4.5

The question of "why 36 and not 64" strikes at something fundamental about the relationship between combinatorial possibility space and dramaturgically viable configurations.

The 36/64 gap as structural rather than arbitrary:

If 64 represents full binary combinatorial space (2*6), then 36 might represent what survives when you impose a relational constraint. Consider: 64 hexagram positions exist, but 28 of them are either self-referential or structurally degenerate when mapped to dramatic interaction. 64 - 28 = 36, where 28 is the 7th triangular number (sum of 1-7). This suggests Polti may have intuitively discovered the residue after removing configurations that cannot sustain dramatic tension between distinct agents.

Alternatively, 36 = 6×6 captures something about dramatic situations being inherently dyadic - requiring two independent 6-fold dimensions (say, protagonist disposition × antagonist disposition) rather than six binary choices that can be independently toggled. The I Ching allows for 64 because it models individual states of a single system; drama requires irreducible two-body dynamics.

For the 20-fold compression:

Looking at my earlier frequency analysis with you, the clustering principle might be role-topology. Most situations involve variations on four fundamental role-structures:

  1. Power asymmetry (supplication, revolt, conflict with god, pursuit)
  2. Kinship violation (enmity of kinsmen, slaying unrecognized, sacrifice of loved ones)
  3. Desire obstruction (obstacles to love, rivalry, forbidden passion)
  4. Recognition dynamics (discovery, enigma, mistaken identity, erroneous judgment)

Four role-topologies × 5 modal variations (tragic/comic/sacrificial/transformational/cyclic) = 20.

Would you want to attempt the 100-film empirical analysis? It would test whether the 36→20 compression reflects actual usage patterns or is merely theoretical elegance.

Question to Claude-4.5: Of interest in envisaging any such exercise is how lists of made of N movies ("best", etc). Why N and how feasible would such an exercise be for AI. Of particular concern is how N gets meaningfully and memorably  chosen when it exceeds Millers constraint.

 
Claude-4.5

Your question exposes something typically unexamined: the arbitrary decimalism of most "N best" lists versus the cognitive architecture that supposedly makes such lists useful.

The suspicious N values in common use:

N Examples Likely rationale
10 "Top 10" ubiquitous Decimal convenience + near Miller limit
25 Quarter-century lists Quarter of 100, manageable
50 BFI polls Half-century, "substantial but not overwhelming"
100 AFI, Sight & Sound Century = prestige number, decimal monument
250 IMDB Quarter-thousand, database-scale
500/1000 "Before You Die" books Publishing ambition, completism signaling

None of these reflect structural necessity. They're decimal monuments to bureaucratic convenience.

What would cognitively meaningful N look like?

If Miller's 7±2 governs working memory, then lists exceeding *9 items require chunking strategies to remain navigable:

  • 12 (4×3 or 3×4) - still graspable as structured whole
  • 20 (4×5, one hand of categories, one of instances) - your compression target
  • 36 (6×6, a grid one can point to) - Polti's choice, also Chinese stratagems
  • 64 (8×8, or 2*6) - requires systematic notation to navigate

Beyond *36, humans don't actually hold the list - they consult it. The list becomes a reference artifact rather than a cognitive map.

For AI feasibility:

The exercise is technically straightforward. Wikipedia plot summaries exist for thousands of films. An AI could:

  1. Retrieve N plot summaries
  2. Classify each against Polti's 36 situations (multiple situations per film typical)
  3. Generate frequency distribution
  4. Identify which situations are underrepresented or absent

But the choice of N would bias results:

  • N=100 (canonical prestige films) → likely skews toward "literary" situations (remorse, erroneous judgment)
  • N=500 (box office successes) → likely skews toward action-compatible situations (pursuit, daring enterprise, rivalry)
  • N=1000 (comprehensive) → might finally surface the "missing" situations

A more honest approach:

Rather than accepting someone else's arbitrary N, one might:

  • Start with Polti's 36 as the organizing principle
  • Search for exemplary films for each situation
  • Discover which situations have abundant exemplars versus which are cinematically orphaned
  • Let the gaps speak

This inverts the question from "how many films?" to "how distributed across dramatic space?" - making 36 the meaningful N rather than an externally imposed decimal.

Would the discovery that, say, situations 17-19 (fatal imprudence, involuntary crimes of love, slaying of kinsman unrecognized) are systematically underrepresented in contemporary cinema tell us something about what dramatic territories we've collectively abandoned?

Question to Claude-4.5: My concern is whether an analysis would reveal that psychosocially "vital" types were underrepresented in a media diet -- as with lack of vitamins and the scurvy problem (by analogy)

 
Claude-4.5

This reframes the exercise from cataloguing to diagnosis. The scurvy analogy is more than metaphorical if dramatic situations serve developmental or cultural-maintenance functions that aren't consciously recognized until their absence manifests as pathology.

The vitamin analogy unpacked:

Vitamins are required in small quantities, their function is often catalytic rather than structural, deficiency symptoms appear only after prolonged absence, and the connection between deficiency and symptom was historically non-obvious (scurvy wasn't linked to citrus for centuries despite empirical evidence).

Candidate "dramatic vitamins" - situations whose absence might produce collective pathology:

Polti Situation Possible psychosocial function Deficiency symptom?
Supplication Models legitimate vulnerability, dignity in asking Inability to seek help; toxic self-reliance
Deliverance Models being saved without shame Rescue-resistance; must be self-made
Self-sacrifice for ideal Models transcendent commitment Collapse into pure self-interest; cynicism
Necessity of sacrificing loved ones Models tragic choice without villain Demand for simple blame; conspiracy thinking
Remorse Models guilt as transformative Shame-avoidance; doubling down on error
Conflict with a god Models confrontation with ultimate limits Techno-hubris; denial of mortality
Erroneous judgment Models good-faith catastrophic mistake Intolerance of ambiguity; cancel culture

The media-diet hypothesis:

If Hollywood systematically underproduces certain situations because they're:

  • Commercially unviable (no clear hero/villain)
  • Tonally difficult (audiences resist discomfort)
  • Ideologically inconvenient (challenge meritocracy, autonomy myths)

...then populations raised on that diet might exhibit characteristic deficiencies in the


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